Experiences of CT Elektronik SL51-4, SL75 and GE75 Decoders
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I will attempt to present some of the experiences that I have had while installing,
programming and using CT Elektronik's SL51-4 sound & motor decoder. While
I don't claim to know everything that can be done (far from it), I hope that
these insights will prove useful to anyone delving into this marvellous decoder
and wanting to get a little more than 'the default' from it. I have also used
the its smaller siblings, the SL75, GE75 and SL76 as well as big brother the SL82,
and will mention the differences as I ramble on.
CT SL51-4 Decoder
Why Choose the SL51-4?
My
passion in model trains has always been steam, and I had spent several years
playing with lighting and smoke generators, which are fabulous in themselves. However,
with the maturing DCC world, and a growing choice of sound decoders on the market,
I finally took the plunge and decided to investigate how to go about putting
sound into my own steam locomotives.
Quickly
it became apparent that steam was much much harder than diesel or electric,
largely because of the space available inside the loco's body. Unless you looked
at the big engines, such as the tender ones, it was going to be tricky to get
most of the available sound decoders inside, let alone a decent enough loud
speaker to make it all worthwhile. The other problem of course was the price.
ESU
LokSound seemed to be the market leader at the time, and certainly still are
at the time of writing, although there are a good number of other manufactures
producing a variety of pre-programmed sound chips for specific locos - particularly
diesel and electric varieties. I started out by compiling a list of the available
chips, which features they had, and in particular, their size.
As
well as size, it was also quickly apparent that another criteria was going to
be very high on the list - programmability... and I don't mean CVs... I mean
sound-sets i.e. the ability to download my own sound recordings onto
the decoder.
My
final requirement was that there must be a minimum of 4 function outputs and that
they needed to be powerful enough to directly drive a single Seuthe smoke generator (around
150mA on an output), to avoid the need for a miniature relay.
Seuthe
Smoke Unit #22
So,
with size, function output ability, and full programmability in mind, the remaining
list of suitable decoders was in fact pretty small, and my short list was set
at:
ESU's LokSound 3.5 Micro (standard 3.5 was too big for my liking)
Zimo's MX640
CT Elektronik's SL75 or SL51
There did appear
to be one or two others which might have been feasible, such as QSI, DigiTrax and MRC,
but at the time I plumped to look into these in detail! After studying the data sheets over and over,
I finally decided to start with CT decoders if for no other reason than they
were by far the smallest (certainly in terms of thickness) and appeared to have
all of the features that I wanted and more, as well as being the cheapest. It
seemed a winner. Even today the choice has not broadened vastly - there are upgraded offerings in
the LokSound range (V4), and from Zimo (MX648,646,645 etc.), and a low-cost alternative from DigiTrax.
CT SL51-4 shown with a variety of speakers
First Reaction - SL74
Well, the first
CT decoder to arrive was an SL74, which was by all accounts VERY tiny. Impressive,
I thought.
So, I rigged up
my first test harness with an 8ohm speaker (an old Hornby Thomas engine's innards)
and switched it all on. I was expecting great things, and that's what I got
- out of the box the SL74 appeared to do the trick, coming pre-loaded with a
semi-decent steam sound-set... reasonable chuffs, a nice throaty whistle and
some well designed auxillary sounds - brakes, water filling, ventilator etc.
Even the micro-speaker supplied with it seemed incredibly loud considering its
15x11x8mm size. Nice. Well, nice for about 5 minutes, until the decoder overheated,
caught fire and flashed a brilliant white flame onto my work table! (my work
bench is wooden, in case you wondered, and I keep that little burn mark as a
souvenir now!)
The replacement came very quickly, in the form of an SL51-4 (the SL74's
bigger brother). Basically identical, but an only slightly larger footprint
(same thinness), but with a greater capacity for motor output. I assumed that
the motor has just been too much for the SL74, although that has never been
confirmed, and according to the stats, it should have been well within means.
Anyway, I decided
at that point to give up with the SL74, and not risk it, but instead just go
for the (brand new at the time) SL51-4 instead.
The '-4' is the
revision number, having superceeded the SL51-2 (whatever happened to SL51-3 we'll never know!)
Don't you just love
the imaginative names that these decoder manufacturers come up with!?
The 4th revision
was important for me as it has various improvements over the previous revision, including
lower operating temperature, more function outputs, more lighting effects and
a better sound engine (16-bit with approximately 200 seconds of recording space, over
3-channel playback). I'll be the first to agree that the sound features are
not as rich as today's LokSound or Zimo decoders, but they are perfectly sufficient
under most conditions.
Second Reaction - SL51-4
So the first SL51-4
arrived and I set to work doing an install in a Hornby Patriot
Class. Nothing fancy at this stage - just use the pre-loaded steam sound-set
and put in some simple lighting features - front and rear lamps, firebox
light and a cab light (4 functions).
This install went
incredibly well, and the result was just awesome - it was the first DCC Sound
steam engine that I'd properly got to tinker with, so I guess was always going
to seem impressive to me. The most impressive thing was the volume coming from
that tiny CT speaker, nicknamed the 'sugar cube'. Amazing.
That seemed easy,
so I put in an order for a few more SL51-4 units.
Programming Troubles
It all seemed great,
and I had great plans to use many more of these decoders for my entire steam fleet
(at the time only around 15 locos).
CT Programmer - PC Interface
However, I was
very keen to change the pre-loaded sound-set for something else, so I bought
byself the CT programming device known as 'SoundProg', to hook up to the PC. After all, one of my
main criteria in choosing CT decoders was that I could do just this. You can
find my Experiences of the CT Programmer
in another resource on the YouChoos website.
The short and curly
of it is that the programmer was eventually configured, after a number of blown
decoder attempts, a variety of cables and lots of experimentation with CT software
versions. I have now figured out how to reliably put together my own sounds-sets
and download them into an SL51-4 and have done a large number of installs this
way since then.
CT Support and Documentation Woes
CT Elektronik are
a small company based near Vienna, Austria. The founder, Mr Tran, is a very
technical guy, formerly an employee at Zimo. So, it is no surprise
that there are a lot of similarities between Zimo's products, and CT's.
Now any product
is great if you can get it out of the box and it just works how you'd expect.
What really tests a manufacturer is what happens when things go wrong. Before
I plumped for CT, I'd read quite a lot of negative comments from various people
about CT's products, from shoddy build quality (wires falling off) through to
a total lack of support. Being technical(ish) myself, I had foolishly thought,
"no problem - I'm sure it can't be that hard"!
As it turns out,
it doesn't matter how technical you are - if the documentation and support you
are working with is incorrect, incomplete, non-existent, or simply badly translated,
then you're in for tough times. And I was. CT's documentation is almost entirely
in German, with only a few of the older revisions of decoders having English
translations. My German is less than half decent, but I struggled through and
did a translation of a few documents. This helped, but it was clear that the
original German documents themselves were incomplete or inaccurate.
Many of my early queries
were directed towards DCC Supplies (the very helpful Fiona and Andy) and also to
Arnold Huebsch (Arnold's Train Web), rather than directly to CT. DCC Supplies
offer fantastic support and they try very hard indeed, but unfortunately hadn't
experimented with the latest revisions of CT decoders quite as much as I wanted
to push them at the time. Likewise, Arnold hadn't got to the bottom of every
facet of the 4th revision either, although his knowledge of both Zimo and CT
equipment were probably the best in the world, next to Mr Tran himself of course!
So, what I would
say, is that it is probably possible to get the CT equipment to do what you want,
and there are resources out there to help... just not that much. Support is,
frankly poor from CT directly, which is very disappointing, although he has
replied to most of my queries to one extent or another. I truly hope that changes
in the future. In the meantime, I have mastered a fair bit of it, and I hope
that you'll find my comments on this page, and in other YouChoos resources
useful. I really like the CT kit, as you've probably gathered by now, but there
are areas of the products which fall far short - namely documentation and support.
Hopefully I can plug some of the gaps here with these resources.
The Physical Install
So, let's take a look at the SL51-4 itself first...
It is roughly the
same size as a Bachmann 36-553 3-function decoder, perhaps a little smaller.
The '-4' revision comes with a black protective tubing to guard against short-circuits.
Previous SL51 revisions did
not have any protective clothing, so it was much easier to accidentally short
and damage them.
Baby brothers, the SL75/GE75 and SL76, do not come with any covering, which is fair enough, as you'll most
likely be using it in the tightest of installations.
SL51-4 Decoder Close-Up
Either end of the
decoder is exposed outside the tubing, so that you have some access to the wiring
points and solder pads - just enough to be able to neatly solder new wires on,
or to add more wires for the additional function outputs. Talking of function
outputs, the SL51-4 actually has 8 function outputs - yes, 8! That was
a surprise to me in fact, as I had understood from the documentation that it
had the usual 4. The 'standard' 4 are pre-wired in the usual NMRA colours:
white; yellow; green; purple. The extra 4 outputs are provided as solder pads
on the reverse side of the decoder, which are pretty easy to attach a thin wire
to, assuming your soldering skills are half decent (my soldering skills are
pretty average, and I can do it, so it cannot be that hard!).
The first 4 function
outputs are identical - same output capability (250mA each) etc. According to
NMRA standards, the white and yellow are designed specifically for directional
lighting, although there's no reason you couldn't use them for something else.
The additional 4 function outputs are similar in function but can handle a total
of 250mA between them (rather than each), which, for most lighting, is still
perfectly adequate. Their function mapping allows for separate programming for
forward and reverse, and there's a reasonable range of lighting effects and
related CVs which make it quite flexible.
I had heard of
problems with build quality of CT decoders in the past, but it seems that these
issues have been improved and this revision looks as sturdy as any other decoder
on the market. The attached wires themselves are a little thicker than most
manufacturers use, but not really an issue as they are perhaps more flexible.
I use very fine decoder wire when attaching to the solder pads - various manufacturers produce suitable wire
including CT, ESU, TCS and Zimo.
All current CT sound decoders
drive 8 ohm speakers, rather than the more common
100 ohm equivalents like LokSound 3.5 use (or 4 ohm on LokSound V4).
In these scales there really isn't much to
choose between 4ohm, 8ohm and 100ohm in terms of evident sound quality and there
is a wide choice of speakers. There are other factors which influence
the volume and the quality far more, such as speaker location and obtaining a true seal.
A selection of smaller 8 Ohm Speakers
I did a quick comparison
between the tiny 'sugar cube' speaker from CT against a 23mm round speaker
on a LokSound setup and although the 23mm speaker sounded a little 'fuller'
(as you'd expect), the sugar cube actually produced a much higher volume and
sounded a little crisper. Sound quality is of course a matter of preference
anyway, and with there being so little real-world difference between them, I
tend to choose smaller speakers simply because they are easier to squeeze into models.
CT's tiny but awesome 'Sugar Cube' 8 Ohm Speaker with resonator attached
All the usual rules
apply for decoder installation: protect against short-circuits; allow sufficient
breathing space for heat dissipation; do not cover in electrical tape etc. I
admit though, that for practical reasons I often use a thin strip of electical
tape just to give the decoder some stability, but do use it sparingly! I also
tend to stick the decoder into position using some sort of thick double-sided pad,
again ensuring that the exposed parts are not 'stuck' by it. I try to position
the decoder so that the extra solder pads are accessible in case I want to wire
any more functions later on - saves me unsticking the decoder.
The speaker is
attached in a similar fashion using a double-sided pad somewhere. Preferably
away from the decoder a little - remember that all speakers contain magnets,
so you don't want that too close to the decoder's flash memory chips. Having
said that, this is just a theory, and I've not actually seen any evidence of
damaged caused this way. Wiring to the decoder is simple - 2 wires attached
to the decoder's 2 brown wires.
Where possible,
I try to fit the decoder and the speaker inside the loco's body rather than
wiring it through to a tender. This is surprisingly often straight-forward,
despite the lack of space, although the first thing I do in a new install is
to remove all the gubbins such as the TV interference capacitor, and all DCC
sockets etc., just to free up the maximum possible space before I decide where
everything goes.
Playing with CVs
The CVs (Configuration Variables) of a DCC decoder are essentially a collection of parameters/variables which
influence how the decoder behaves. Many CVs are standard, in that they
follow the guidelines set out by the NMRA organisation. However, any fairly
advanced decoder will have in addition to this a whole bunch of CVs specific
to itself. This is especially true for sound decoders, which provide far more
functionality than was ever designed for when NMRA came up with the original
standards.
The SL51-4 is no
exception, having 177 CVs for various purposes. In fact, it is such a big
topic that I'm not going to go into detail here. Instead you can read my commentary
on that subject in the Understanding SL51-4 CVs
document.
How the SL51-4 Sound-Set is Used
Rather than go
into a detailed discussion here on how the Sound-Set is put together,
and how it is used in the loco at 'play' time, another document is available
to help you with that aspect: Tips on Sound-Sets
for CT Revision-4 Decoders
Baby Brothers - the SL75 and SL76
Just by means of
a final word on the CT decoders for now, I have also used the SL75, GE75 and SL76 decoders
in many tighter
installations, including N gauge. It took me a while to grow brave enough to attempt this, after
the original disastrous attempt with the SL74. Fire extinguisher at the ready
please! Fear totally unfounded of course.
The SL75 is featured
almost to the same spec as the SL51-4, providing the same 16 bit, 3-channel
sound and an almost identical set of CVs. The only notable differences are in
the output capability for the motor and the fact that there are only 4 function
outputs, rather than the 8 of the SL51-4. The lower power ability means that
you probably wont be able to reliably run this decoder on the biggest OO motors,
but it is still quite capable. Rather than overloading and frying itself, it
tends to just ignore requests for things that it cannot handle, which is obviously
much better than fireworks!
For example, if
you have the loco running around at full steam, with sound activated, it might
occasionally decide to ignore a request to play the whistle - so all in all,
not a big deal. In fact, the LokSound Micro decoders suffer exactly the same
problem. It is just a fact that you are pushing them a little harder than they
can cope with, but unlike the SL74, it wont damage anything.
The size, of course,
is the BIG little factor in the SL75! It truly is astoundingly small...
The SL76 is a replacement for the SL75, and chops almost a third off the dimensions
in every direction, making it even easier to install in many N gauge locos. Spec is almost
the same again, but with slightly higher motor output. Awesome!
CT's SL75 Combi-Decoder
The only other
point of note on the SL75 is in its programmability... on my Lenz's programming
track, I cannot read back any CVs from the decoder, including the current loco
address. This has something to do with the strength of the acknowledgement from
the decoder, but despite best attempts I've never had it working. There is a
CV which allows you to tweak this ACK signal strength, but it does not appear
to help my Lenz system. Interesting I have exactly the same problem with the
bog-standard Hornby decoders. The good news is that it does accept direct programming
of CVs, so it is easy to tweak it - just not to read-back the data. Read-back works perfectly
via a SPROG II or SPROG 3 though, so perhaps it is actually the Lenz system that's at fault.
Sound-Only Decoder - GE75
Worthy of brief mention here is CT's GE75 decoder, which is almost identical to the SL75
in spec, dimensions and functionality, except that it has no motor control output and only
has 2 function outputs instead of 4.
Being so similar to the SL75 it enjoys all of the good stuff that the whole Rev4 range
from CT gives, and programming works the same way too. It makes sense to use the GE75
in dummy cars to get sound+lights, and works out cheaper - which is great if you have
already invested in standard DCC decoders for your motor control.
The GE75 is supplied with just the pickup wires and speaker wires attached, so you have to
add your own wires to solder pads to make use of the 2 functions, or the reed-switch inputs
(for synchronising steam chuffs with wheel speed).
The photos below show the GE75 firstly as-supplied, and then with the necessary wires added
for the 2 functions (white for the 1st function, yellow for the 2nd function and blue for
common positive)...
Expect the GE76 to enter the market some time in 2012 (August?), which will no doubt
replace the GE75, and fit the same footprint as the SL76.
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